Johma v Hyde

To be honest, I didn’t know about the dick tournament until Idubbz’s name was popping up across the net because of some interview he had. So I watched this just before watching the Clash…

So the 30 minute interview was between Ian and Anthony Padilla (Smosh) who I only know from this. From here, we can learn from Ian some forms of regret from his freshmen era as a radical YouTuber. He talked about how Content Cop wasn’t fulfilling and how he had moved to doing more fulfilling projects recently even though it got less views. There was a point that he found it weird that certain fans would come up to him and quote things like “faggot”, “nigger”, or even “nigger faggot” which he did say in his videos. But both Anthony and Ian agree that context matters as he used to say it in videos for comedy as if it were apart of a character while fans just were randomly and unwittingly saying stuff. It’s weird to just go up and quote something, even if it wasn’t slurs, to the creator of it. Then I learned that his wife, Anisa, was his girl for the last few years but Ian just never talked about her that much online. She has her own platform and she would help with all the old Content Cop videos. I completely knew nothing about her, I thought he got her more recently. Anthony then asked about his childhood. Ian apparently had an imprisoned father until ten years old, he had a mom and sister and a few ‘weird’ friends that also had single mothers. According to Ian, it was just hard to know exactly what a guy should do around the house if it was not gross or hard work. When his dad was in prison, he lived in a trailer park but doesn’t really identify with it due to juvenile amnesia. Anyways, occupation wise, Ian worked at GAP for a season, then Legoland and part time Youtubing. For Creator Clash, Ian never originally wanted to do it but was just kind of responding to Ricegum’s challenge from 2018 although the idiot never came up. He has struggled with the passion of the coach which is understandably guaranteed for the sport. He also credits Anisa for everything in the managing of the Creator Clash since he has to worry about training. For positive things, Ian appreciates his time he spent with the Edgelord Tridium, loves all the creative time with his wife, and appreciates boxing. And that’s it!

Now nothing in this video specifically spawned drama. Clips circulated on on Tiktok and Twitter which I think reawakened opinions people had on Idubbz that they really wanted to share now. He has been offline for months so that gives reason to why any human brain would want to talk about him now plus the big fight was in a few weeks. Stuff that was said on twitter that I glanced at on the time included; why does he let his wife cuck him, why is he such a simp and why is he a pussy nowadays. There was also drama hailing from Sam Hyde which I was lucky enough to never watch a video about until now.

Now Anthony opened up that interview talking about how controversial Idubbz used to be and I would’ve disagreed but then there was this maybe undeserved amount of attention on him before the event. Personally, I’ve only watched most of the Content Cops, his video on the Star Wars kid, and maybe a few clips including the Reese’s Puff dance. So I wasn’t a subscriber but I always liked Ian’s personality. His sincerity and awareness always made him relatable to me.

Content Cop, for example, were these random videos of him critiquing the boring, incorrect, or flawed content of others. They were never hit pieces as he never promoted them to be so and each person ‘arrested’ remained relevant. Yet again another example of how cancel culture just doesn’t exist. His video on Leafyishere is one thing I liked even though I liked Leafy at the time, it was just honest and only sometimes trying to be outright mean (the chin meme was the dumbest thing at the time). Also his video on Tana Mongeau where he talked about her by saying nigger was a mastercraft in trolling and a mastercraft in narrative. He builds up the whole video beating around the bush about how bad she is and then continuing with her usage of ‘nigger’. He then, live, appears at one of her concerts in a fan meetup and takes a picture while saying the word. She’s shocked and it was super petty but holy shit is it funny. He definitely put some effort in these videos but I always viewed them as shitposts and not something to take that seriously especially since people barely responded. These vids also inspired me a bit to eventually make content one day just critiquing other content creators on technical things and that will be realized here.

Also with that Tana video, I agreed with his philosophy that any word could be said by any person as he was arguing from the position that you’d be comfortable with it. Obviously in public spaces, there’s unspoken rules about what to say but everyone speaks their mind when with close friends. If she’s comfortable saying nigger on her Insta lives, she can’t just get mad at Ian for also saying it in his videos. I also don’t really care about who uses such terms in a neutral way as even black people could use it against others for hate. Slurs are slurs definitionally but everyone has something they are comfortable with saying from the weakest being idiot to the strongest being nigger. I’ve heard crackers (poor white people) use the term nigga as fluently as any black person, shits not something I worry about with my dark skin.

But Ian has had other videos, he was apart of what I just dubbed the Edgelord Tridium. Idubbz, Filthy Frank, and maxmoefoe. These three would combine to make some of the most chaotic videos during the Golden Age of Memes in which YouTube was experiencing an era of Extreme content. Now, at least for these three unlike the Paul Brothers, their content was mostly just with them (from what I know) and fairly self-aware. They also acted overly goofy and loose with their lips for the content but again their stuff was ‘indoors’ as in no one else was involved. I would describe Paul content as ‘outdoor’ in which they pranked publicly and made as much noise as possible. They were extreme in a more annoying way.

That is also why they are able to shift away from this content differently. I never considered Ian that edgy when I was younger, he just seemed real. My friends would say worse stuff and I’ve seen worse on the Internet. But if you asked everyone including the man, Ian had made a bit of a brand change with Creator Clash. I guess I also just don’t care about the brand. For the Paulers, they are trying to focus on boxing and money laundering while Filthy Frank became melancholic singer Joji and Ian does more long form documentaries and other stuff. I don’t know what Max does. But has any of their actually personalities changed? I just watched J Aubrey’s video on Jake and it made me realize it doesn’t matter if Jake outwardly focuses on boxing if he’s still going to sexually assault women. Now he’s not a Youtuber in hot water but a boxer in hot water. The brand doesn’t fucking matter. And for Ian, I really don’t see anything more than a physical change. He still has the same core values (which is good for him, bad for Jake) but he says nigger less. At least, that’s what I see. Because of that though, I wouldn’t ever really use controversial to describe him. He makes indoor content, he doesn’t actually try to attract ire nor does he abusively talk with women to end up in hot water. People just don’t like what he says sometimes. That’s sounds like a personal problem.

Oh about his wife Anisa. I gotta say, firstly, visually, I hate tattoos. For some reason, they distract me whenever I look at a person and sometimes my eyes don’t focus so it looks like they have a rash or are maybe wearing fishnets when they aren’t. Then my brain focuses and feels lied too, this happens repeatedly. A single tattoo can look cool to me but it’s a total turnoff whenever the whole body is decorated no matter how big her boobs are. Um, I guess she seems fine otherwise. People don’t care about that part and instead, like over a year ago, they cared that Ian let her do Onlyfans. Bro half the bitches online do Onlyfans, I think he knows and doesn’t care. Then (this was more recently) they got mad because he changed his last name to hers. His name was Ian Washburn. Now its Ian Jomha. I think that’s much better, an improvement. Why did his ancestor get named Washburn, lmao. And this is the thing, the edgy content he made attracted these degenerates that probably prefer to spend time on an incel subreddit rather than a real life friend, that’s the people who get mad about Anisa. They thought Ian was also an incel, they thought he was on the team! But Ian’s always been a healthy person, who doesn’t mind whores, and who had a shitty last name. This reminds me of a recent Twitter episode where apparently a guy in the incel community got a girlfriend and had to formally leave. The incels were foaming at the mouth, all mad at him, and mad at the ‘matrix’ of a happy life. Basically, Ian was receiving this treatment, its so fucking weird. But it’s even more parasocial considering he’s not an incel, never was apart of any community close to it, and had known Anisa for years. Those silly bafoons.

The last piece of drama deals with Sam “the Candyman” Hyde. Sam Hyde is this untamed comedian who was apart of the adultswim show “Million Dollar Extreme Presents: World Peace” which was so extreme that not even adultswim could give it a seventh episode. Other comedians on the network hated Hyde and his two friends as all their jokes were apparently crude for no reason. Then Hyde returned to Youtube to continue posting his style of comedy. I would say he posted outdoor content as he became famous online and on regular news channels for his controversial nature. He was also claimed by news media to be a public shooter like several times. I never watched not a second of his content so everything I say to describe it comes from Ian.

You see, Ian did a little documentary on Hyde a few years ago. He filmed it in 2021 although it was only released last year just before the first Creator Clash. I only just now watched it and I REALLY relate to Ian here. The documentary is filmed with the same vein as the Star Wars Kid one as in he’s going over to meet the subject and understand them deeper without actually trying to perhaps ruin their life. So basically the same attitude as the Content Cops just more mature and more of a personal narrative. Also in person.

So to recap the vid, Ian flies over to Rhode Island and meets Sam who takes him on a trip to get his car’s oil changed. We have a few short conversations here but Ian didn’t get to learn that much about Sam. He really just wants to understand the man’s comedy, not because he doesn’t think he’s not funny, but he makes no fucking sense. Ian stated he had trouble while directly talking to Sam trying to figure out whether he’s joking or not. He’d say something fully serious and sincere but next sentence say some goofy bullshit as if to clear the air. He even asked Sam about it and the answer amounted to nothing. Some real antisocial shit. We do learn at least that he’s never been on drugs and does not drink alcohol. Sam then took Ian to his shitty ‘office’ and we met his writing team and girlfriend Dani. The team was a real Inglorious Bastards of Rhode Island in the worse way you could imagine that title. Meanwhile the girlfriend truly worried Ian because she mentioned she’s addicted to drugs. Ian asked Sam if she’s getting help from anyone but Sam answered in disdain. Later, on Ian’s second or third (just forgot) day, he gets to do his one on one with the Hyde.

I hate this scene. Ian here reveals why he approached Sam as the two are of different circles. It was because he once copyrighted a video of Ian’s although Sam doesn’t remember this. Sam does act all defensive though asking if Ian will prank him about this in the documentary. That’s fine but then Ian seriously asks about Dani, and Sam ‘breaks’. What I mean by break is that he replies, “do you seriously think I would date a girl like that? Shaved head and all that?”

Completely flabbergasted and a bit perturbed, Ian exclaims, “Yeah!” And I was raising a brow too. Sam reveals that she was an actress he hired and that he rented a shitty office for him and his coworkers to fool Ian with. Ian is in complete disbelief at this point (because who tf does this?) while Sam continues to dissolve the world he built up as a prank on Ian. The only motive is “it would be funny”. I guess their conservation ends there. I still thought Sam was joking about the prank until Ian meets the Bastards the next day–to shoot guns in the wilderness–and they admit to the prank. Now I’m at a lost for words. Even worse, Sam does not appear for the rest of the week until the last day of Ian’s stay. Ian is unable to corner him for any real questions or even just bond with the dude like he did Star Wars Kid. He leaves completely disappointed.

Now, pre-docu, the two never interacted. Anisa considered Sam unpredictable and didn’t want to go so this is one of the few videos she didn’t help Ian with. Ian was also visibly nervous when filming with Sam as he was probably a bit scared of the man’s chaos stat. It doesn’t help that Sam pulls his leg for an entire day and (most importantly) never humanizes himself after that. He just avoids the office, the coworkers who hang out with Ian, and Ian for the rest of the week. This is asocial! Ian says he would have been okay with the prank if Sam did concede to interviews afterwards but the man never does. He just shoves off like some 5th grader afraid of his feelings. I’m being harsher than Ian but holy hell, dude’s almost 40 and couldn’t be real with a fellow comedian.

Now the way Ian does the Content Cops and documentaries are an alternating mix of live recorded shit with the person and then his thoughts after filming where he can build a narrative. Spliced during the one (1) interview was his description of Hyde’s comedy from his theoretic angle. Ian describes comedy as being a circle of three points of speech; Sincerity, sarcasm, and post-irony (when you’re joking about the joke your making). Then he says Hyde is above this in a plane known as meta-irony where you say just about whatever you want knowing the truth yourself but never revealing the purpose to anyone else. In this state, one could say anything without having to feel personally responsible (because its just a joke) and he thinks this could be true for Hyde. Using his descriptions of the comedy, I believe Ian would place himself in being post-ironic as he can still be sincere (I’ve hardly seen him sarcastic). For himself, he’s completely confused by meta-irony because from the perspective of the joker, you don’t have to provide context for it. For the audience, they just get to hear the punchline. Ian does not actually say this last part so if you check the comments of the docu, everyone misinterprets meta-irony and his critique of it. Meta-Irony is not just saying shocking things nor is Ian trying to get a joke explained to him from Sam. A joke has a build up and a punch line but a meta one does not have the first part. That’s already done in your head or in the audience’s if they’ve been made aware by the meta. That’s just basic bad writing. You don’t write a story with just the climax, you don’t just cite a scientific paper’s conclusions without the data. I will say, actual meta comedy that people like Deadpool does can still be funny. But even Deadpool should be sincere at times. For Ian, Sam never returns to sincerity.

From these descriptions, I do find Sam unfunny definitionally. You’d basically have to get to know him for him to be funny. But that’s not good comedy. And I don’t think his fans actually know this. All their responses are just salt about Ian being ‘nerdy’ about comedy as if there isn’t an actual science to this. Because of his lack of sincerity, I fear there’s actually a psyche problem for Hyde. He’s been doing bits for years and never needed to grow out of it. Rather than being meta-ironic, I think he’s lost in the sauce. He’s just become the bit and there’s nothing for him to actually answer to in any documentary. I’ll give him credit to the fans since they must like him for a deep reason and nowadays he seems to do some streams that may be sincere. But from this docu, no watcher would be able to inspect that.

So because of this bad bad super fucking bad impression Hyde left on Ian, he is now both scared and probably hates him. And I can’t blame him, imagine you ask a guy to be in your documentary, you fly over despite the fears of your wife, you are familiar with no one you meet, and then he pranks you and leaves you alone. This is why Ian says in the interview, “it wouldn’t be hard to paint you as an asshole” before even asking the Dani question. It really wouldn’t.

Now apparently, for Clash 2, a rapping challenger by the name “Froggy Fresh” Tyler Stephen Cassidy got a training arc from Sam. Ian contacted him about this privately to possibly warn him about Sam although he just asks, “how the fuck do you know this guy?” Defensively, Cassidy stayed loyal to Hyde and so was dropped from the Clash 2. Two weeks before the event. Fans raved. There were apparently folks appearing at the stadium just to protest about Froggy although Sam never responded to the situation. This is because I think he’s unaware of how his rough treatment of Ian completely ruined any good faith he could have on him. Now another fighter, Harley, did get trained by Sam but Harley’s already fought. He’s trustworthy. Harley did consider the dropping to be an overreaction but clarifies the contractual situation here. Basically, if Cassidy stays quiet about the situation, he gets to keep the $1500 they paid him for the event or else there would be legal ascertaining. Cassidy talked about Sam in a few podcasts before the drop as if the man was Top G. Well I’m exaggerating but it was just very ecstatic, ecstatic enough that the Johmas (I theorize) must have been afraid that Cassidy would bring Sam even though Sam has been banned from both of the Clashes.

A lot of people like to mistakenly point to the fact that Cassidy said if he lost to Chris Ray Gun he’d “subscribe to Anisa’s onlyfans”. Now Ian never really responded to this but it was after this that Cassidy got dropped. That’s why people point to it but it mistakes the Onlyfans being the problem (because they’re projecting with the whole incel/cuck thing) when Sam is sitting right there. Idk for sure but there’s more evidence to Ian hating Sam than Onlyfans.

Another thing with Froggy support, his fans and other anti-Johma folks congratulate him on his niceness with being dropped. This is shocking to me because the guy is barely doing anything. I guess because of the other people involved (or just the Internet atmosphere), they expect a dropped fighter to leak Anisa’s nudes and dox Ian’s house but Cassidy’s just in these podcasts lightly complaining. It wasn’t even playing innocent or apologizing to Ian, not even roasting the man, its just a small displeasure for him. I guess that is admirable, whatever.

Since there’s no response from Ian just days before the event, I think he just hates Sam and wanted no way of him getting in. Sam has basically scared him straight and isn’t helping the situation due to his ignorance. Anisa is the showrunner and some people think she’s a domwife ashamed about her Onlyfans and since she’s quiet, that doesn’t help either. I do think dropping Cassidy completely was an unfortunate stray and an overreaction in which Cassidy doesn’t lose much.

He gets $1500, a more physically fit body, still had time to write music if he wanted, publicity from the controversy, befriended Sam Hyde who he finds funny, and didn’t even have to throw a punch. It’s not like these guys are prideful boxers either. They just started for the event a few months and will most likely never fight again. For Cassidy, he can find a fight anywhere if he wants to catch Saiyan Pride. This thing’s for charity. With that in mind, this was taken way too seriously by EVERYONE and I hate that I had to research it.